Episode 2.6


Beth, Tracie and Jen discuss the war on women, problems with Invisible Children and the Kony 2012 campaign, rape victim forced to marry her rapist commits suicide and a discussion of pro-choice legislative tactics and blood donation.

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  • Raymond

    B,T,and J, I love you guys. this is my second podcast of yours. And I have a pledge for you three and all women. I have been posting it around and encouraging other men to join me in the pledge. Wow, I just heard you say something about the AZ law and I got so pissed at remembering about having heard about it from earlier today, I could just bite nails, what is wrong with these people???!!! Damn!!, So, here is the pledge: “There is far too much violence, inequality, & disrespect shown to women in the forms of sexism, misogyny and more, around the world and it must stop NOW & I as a male Feminist pledge to do what I can to that end.” -RNash

    If any woman votes in 2012 for a Republican, then they get what they deserve. It is all about the Religious Right having co-opted an entire political party and is now dictating the rules of their backward religion to the rest of us, and of course women are to submit to their man, and a single woman who is having sex when she wants, as often as she wants(just like men, if they can find a willing partner)will be made to give birth, if she accidently gets pregnant. It is insane.

    Mar 15, 2012 at 12:08 am
  • Elaine

    My dad was actually called by the org in Canada he used to donate to (he would go almost on a monthly basis) and asked not to come anymore.

    Turned out the “Hong Kong Flu” he and his siblings got as kids was Hep A.

    Mar 15, 2012 at 1:15 am
  • Raymond

    The points you make about women also voting for this bad legislation, this transvaginal probing, or unnecessary ultrasound procedure is important, since the ERA Amendment introsuced every year for decades, was defeated by women advocacy. I think women do not have representation, though they have the vote. Do you think the HR 3 and HR 358 would have passed the House in 2011, if the House had been 50% women? Not likely as there are most likely more Progressive women than CONservative ones. The 1100 bills about women’s rights and abortion in the past year is out off sight and insane. It is time for the Congress to be 50-50 women to men. Where rights are concerned, whether gay, women’s, or immigrants, they can’t be voted on, they are a given and no group can be shut out by any other. The bogus bills, though not possible to pass, the Republicans waste so much time on trivial stuff anyway just to obfuscate as a strategy, and they are in the majority. Dems can only try to make them look ridiculous. I am not gay, and my former post says how I feel about what women are shamefully going through, and I won’t stand for it, never have never will, just as though I was born in the South, racism never took hold with me, though I was pumped with it. Thnx for the show, and I love you guys’ Southern accents. I was born in SC

    Mar 15, 2012 at 1:28 am
  • Jason

    I donate blood. Grew up a Jehovahs Witness and its my personal middle finger to them. I guess its doing a good thing but for a wrong reason huh?

    Mar 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm
  • Johnson

    Great episode as usual! What’s the music? :)

    Mar 16, 2012 at 12:49 pm
  • Johnson

    Arrgh. Saw the link… never mind. Lol.

    Mar 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm
  • peter

    i clicked comment …now i cant finish show …back to zero… ..but.. typical chicks …just going on and on no interest in time … im sure these shows could be much more concise without so much girly rambling

    Mar 16, 2012 at 1:35 pm
  • jill

    alright, can we all agree some comments don’t get responses?

    on another note:


    Mar 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm
  • James

    Thanks for another excellent episode.

    I wanted to pass this link along, from Jerry Coyne’s blog:


    “The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Thursday that it will cut off all Medicaid funding for family planning to the state of Texas, following Gov. Rick Perry’s (R) decision to implement a new law that excludes Planned Parenthood from the state’s Medicaid Women’s Health Program.”

    Mar 17, 2012 at 11:15 pm
  • andrew

    Just a heads up: the download version of this episode only contains the first 9 minutes or so of the show. I’ve tried to download it in both IE and Firefox too, if that’s of any use to know.

    Mar 18, 2012 at 12:19 am
  • Sam

    On your comments regarding sex and food. I don’t know if you’re aware but Stephen Fry said something similar:

    ‘It’s the strangest thing about [the catholic] church, it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now they will say we with our permissive society and rude jokes are obsessed. No, we have a healthy attitude. We like it, it’s fun, it’s jolly, because it’s a primary impulse it can be dangerous and dark and difficult. It’s a bit like food in that respect only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese and that in erotic terms is the Catholic church in a nutshell.” - intelligence squared debate, Stephen Fry

    Mar 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm
  • Chris


    I find that if you right click the image that says “Audio MP3″ and press “Save link as…” you will get the full version. (I’m using Chrome.)

    This is something that might be worth bringing up for this weeks episode: http://gawker.com/5894193/crowd-at-santorum-rally-horrified-when-two-dudes-kiss-each-other

    Thanks for a good podcast,


    Mar 20, 2012 at 1:55 am
  • Kes

    The “men who have sex with men” language is standard public health jargon: lots and lots of men have had sexual experiences with other men but don’t consider themselves gay. Since it is the behavior (anal intercourse with other men) that is a risk factor for HIV exposure, those writing them forms want to make sure the donors are self-reporting the behavior, rather than their sexual identity. A gay virgin wouldn’t be ineligible under the guidelines for example, while a man married to a woman, but who used to have one-night-stands with other men would be excluded. (As would his wife.)

    That isn’t to say that the across-the-board ban on men who have sex with men donating blood isn’t preposterously bigoted on its face, and even more so now that HIV tests are so cheap, fast and accurate. It was a rule put in place at the height of the HIV/AIDS paranoia, and really needs to be retracted.

    Mar 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm
  • Jeff

    I thought it was genius the way you pointed out that if a woman’s right to her own body comes second to the fetus’s right to life — then likewise any potential blood/tissue/organ donor ought to be forced to donate those things when they can save another person’s life.

    It may not be a perfect analogy, but overall I find it really compelling and am surprised that I haven’t heard somebody use it before.

    I hope more people latch onto this analogy and spread the idea.

    Keep up the good work! Another excellent show.

    Mar 22, 2012 at 10:19 am
  • Becky

    Wow! Just wow….you ladies really make me proud to be a screamin Texas atheist prochoice woman! Your show keeps me from becoming more insane than I already am… I have been a lifelong activist, Planned Parenthood volunteer and supporter, school teacher, abortion counselor, mom, daughter, sister, and now an out atheist. Your show, withit’s wit and wisdom just rocks my day! Glad ya’ll are back.

    Mar 22, 2012 at 3:21 pm
  • Hugo

    Why don’t you talk about Freud?

    Mar 22, 2012 at 6:28 pm
  • Tina

    Was listening to this as I checked in my parts order today. Enjoyed it immensely! Listening to you all as I did my traditionally male job, makes me smile. Did try to listen to it Friday at the gym, but my heart rate got too high. I really enjoyed the comparison made between donating blood or organs and these nonsensical abortion bills. Having had two children, and having the second pregnancy as high risk, I have seen the sonograms from 6 weeks gestation to 38 weeks gestation. Having one to shame me into not having an abortion, it wouldn’t work. I really shouldn’t have to worry about being shamed like that if I should need to need one. I was on the cusp of needing a blood transfusion during my last cesarean section; I shouldn’t have to worry about being bullied should I decide that I want to be alive for my two daughters and abort an embryo. I was prolife for a while, and I consider myself to be pro life that exists in front of my life already. I enjoy my beautiful daughters and my birth control (which does serve a dual purpose for me, it controls my migraines too lol). Keep up the wonderful work ladies!

    Mar 24, 2012 at 11:45 am
  • Hugo

    They don’t read the comments. :(

    Mar 26, 2012 at 10:27 pm
  • Rilian

    How would it make the unemployment rate go down if more people didn’t have jobs?

    Jul 23, 2012 at 2:20 pm
  • Steven M

    I visited Greece for 2 weeks, then came back and resumed blood donation as usual. About 5 months later, at about my 7th visit since I returned (I donate platelets which is allowed ever other week), I was told I could not donate and had to be deferred until one year since my return from Greece. This was due to several reports of malaria cases in the area I had visited (something like 20 cases). Anyway, even though I was showing no symptoms and had already donated several times, they still deferred me.

    Some of the funny questions on our blood donation form are: Are you, or were you, a dependent of someone in military service? Have you ever had chagas disease? Have you ever paid anyone for sex? If you are male, have you ever had sexual contact with another male, even once? In the last year, have you had a tattoo or body piercing? And the one that one of you were probably referring to: Do you have Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease? 0_o

    I think your bill about blood donation would be great! My wife however, despite being pro-choice, is terrified of needles. So even though I would support the bill, there are sure to be people who it would hurt even though they agree with your basic reasoning.

    Also, I don’t remember if it was this episode or the previous one, when you were talking about car insurance. In Idaho, which is heavily conservative, helmets are not required. In WA, where I live, motorcyclists and bicyclists are required to wear helmets, but motorcyclists are not required to have motorcycle insurance.

    Love your show; I’ve only recently started listening from the beginning so it’s going to take awhile to catch up!

    And lol, the captcha text is “men ic”.

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:14 pm

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