Episode 2.5

07Mar12

Beth, Jen and Tracie discuss the contraception mandate, Rush Limbaugh, Bill Maher, naked atheist calendars, atheist billboards and Mark Driscoll and holy blowjobs.

  • Jimmy (gingeratheist)

    Even though I agree with the conclusions they come to I can’t make sense of something. I understand the thought that both men and women need contraceptives and that there should be no barrier or difference between men and women rights (human rights) but why call it feminism. There are contradictory forms of feminism that make it indiscernible which is the ‘real’ feminism. Why call it feminism?

    Mar 8, 2012 at 1:36 pm
  • Manuel Royal

    Often Bill Maher is right about stuff (meaning that he agrees with me). But when he’s wrong, he can’t see it. I haven’t heard him go off on one of his uninformed crackpot rants about medicine lately, but it was fascinating a couple of years ago when one of the chief doctors at the CDC tried to explain to him how infectious disease works, and Bill wouldn’t accept it.

    One thing that the current curfluffle about contraceptive coverage is doing, is to make it plain how ridiculous is the system of healthcare through private insurance paid for by one’s employer as part of one’s compensation. It’s not a good system for the employee (assuming one is lucky enough to have a job), not a good system for the employer — not good, really, for anyone but the insurance company.

    Mar 8, 2012 at 4:40 pm
  • ullrich fischer

    I think it is probably ok to call Rush a “He-Ho”. Same for Newt and all the other “christian” holier than thou hypocrites who condemn women for demanding access to contraceptives while themselves screwing everything that moves or who condemn gays while hiring gay hookers.

    Mar 8, 2012 at 9:01 pm
  • Muzz

    It’s a bit beside the point, but a lot of people point to Rush calling Fluke as slut etc as the point where people were walking away from him. I don’t think that’s what did it. It doesn’t seem to be outside the moralising he usually does to the delight of his audience. I think it was when he made the crack about watching them have sex for his amusement. He crossed some line from misogynist moraliser to amateur porn consumer. That’s my guess anyway.

    Mar 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm
  • Muzz

    Oh and welcome back ladies, btw. On the Catholic end of the discussion, I heard one person say once that it’d take the church disavowing the blessed virgin herself before they’d quit. The doctrine itself is pretty far down the list of breaking points. The abstract identity and the icons are what it’s all about. And they definitely don’t let anyone go they don’t have to, that’s for sure. There was quite a telling bit in a series by Australian comic Judith Lucy. She was doing a spiritual journey show, about herself. She was raised Catholic but hadn’t really had anything to do with it since she left home. So first port of call in the show is back to church to face the music. So after some lengthy discussion with the priest about her hard drinking life, she says she wants to leave the church. He responds by trying to talk her out if it. She lays out and repeats how she’s not religious, cares not a whit for communion and the rest of it and is pretty sure she doesn’t even believe in god so she shouldn’t even be in there. His response is something like “Yeah, but why close that door? You don’t have to leave. Can’t you just not come?”, or something similar. It’s creepy yet hilarious.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 11:38 am
  • Matt

    I’m getting an error when trying to download the episode and came here because the itunes download wasn’t working.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 5:11 pm
  • GodlessDick

    I’m having the same problem as Matt.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 10:10 pm
  • Abyssal

    Yeah, ditto. Won’t download :(

    Mar 11, 2012 at 10:52 pm
  • Leet

    Bring on the male pill! Unfortunately, hormonal birth control for men has quite serious side-effects: http://science.howstuffworks.com/male-bc-pill.htm Current work is mostly on non-hormonal birth control. A number of different avenues are being researched, but unfortunately none have yet passed clinical trials. A good compilation of the current status of research is here: http://malecontraceptives.org/

    Mar 12, 2012 at 4:32 am
  • Mark Plus

    Okay, I get it. You really, really hate the fact that sex can make you pregnant.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 6:01 pm
  • Frank

    “Okay, I get it. You really, really hate the fact that sex can make you pregnant.”

    I found this comment to be irritating. You do realize that men get to have all the sex they want without getting pregnant? We should be sensitive to the fact that the decision to have sex has far more consequences and potential repercussions for woman than it does for men.

    Woman should have birth control options, so that they can make responsible decisions in regards to family planning. Denying them the right to act responsibly, is an incredibly irresponsible and shortsighted decision. I would go as far as to question whether or not any person against birth control is either intelligent, or knowledgeable about any subject.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 8:38 pm
  • Meggan V.

    What are these contradictory forms of feminism? What do you mean by that?

    Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm
  • Dave B.

    Speaking of that billboard that got defaced, it’s ironic that only the part relating to atheism was destroyed; they left the bible quote about slavery in tact. Assuming the vandal was christian, evidently they find atheism more offensive than their religion advocating slavery.

    I enjoyed Tracie’s rants, and in particular, her Star Trek analogy. It’s not playing fair with your audience when you have to consult a website or whatever in order to understand a movie. Donnie Darko is a prime example of this. In a way, religion is a lot like a poorly thought out fantasy series where the followers have to do a substantial amount of “fanwankery” in order to try to explain away the massive gaps in logic and the overall ridiculousness of it all.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm
  • Nathan

    Great episode! Thanks.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm
  • MH

    I’m not sure if I agree with the “boundaries” thesis. Sometimes there are huge power differences. Sometimes you might have to change the venue to have a chance. I agree that vandalism is never the answer, but a protest in response to a billboard or a new law or a billboard in response to a protest etc. - I don’t necessarily have a problem with that. I don’t think you do either; perhaps I am just being pedantic.

    On the KONY 2012 video there was also a critical NPR story I am sure you can find by google.

    Mar 14, 2012 at 2:56 am
  • GodlessDick

    @Jimmy (gingeratheist) You should probably listen to episode 2.3.

    Mar 15, 2012 at 12:04 am
  • Matt

    Hi, I was just wondering how much birth control costs in America since it apparently needs to be covered by insurance? I live in Australia and birth control is about $20 per month for the basic pill, and Nuva rings are about $30 per month. This may be because they are subsidised by the government.

    Oh by the way, there are reversible “birth” control options for men. Human trials are currently underway in India I believe. The sexism around this disgusts me.

    Thanks, Matt

    Mar 15, 2012 at 6:31 pm
  • LulaNeith

    It was “Politically Incorrect” that Bill Maher was on. It was cancelled because he didn’t agree the 9/11 terrorists were cowards. Heh. I completely agree with you that it’s so ridiculous and stinks of entitlement to ‘ask’ that folks not take non-violent action against Rush through his sponsors.

    Mar 15, 2012 at 10:10 pm
  • Cheeks B

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE that you all are back. You are right guys should have an option to take some kind of pill or something as a form of birth control. GREAT show Bitches!

    Mar 16, 2012 at 3:26 pm
  • Nicki Minaj Sex Tape

    lol naked none believer calander whats the point in that?

    May 31, 2012 at 6:18 am

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