Beth, Jen and Tracie discuss teen birth rate, misogyny in Hasidic neighborhoods, Mormonism and rape and transgender issues.
One objection I’ve heard to people marrying objects/animals is that everyone will marry one so they can get tax breaks. I’ve also heard people make this objection to same sex marriage, that guys who aren’t gay will marry each other for tax benefits.
You could say the same thing about straight marriage. But what tax breaks would object/animal marriages be accompanied by? Idk, it’s kind of pointless to think about anyway as it is really just a huge red herring.
Also, just as a note I was thinking about: it has often been said by the atheist community (including myself) that atheists are the most hated (and mistrusted) minority in america but I would have to think that the transgendered community would have something to say about that.
Good point. Atheists are usually referencing a particular study that I’m not sure transgender people were listed on.
I’m 21 and have been taking testosterone since 2009, so until very recently (the past year or so) I was fairly androgynous. Especially since I’m a small person and tend to dress more feminine despite identifying as male. As far as pronouns, I was fine with people asking me, or using either and I would correct them if they were wrong. My main concern was that people treated me as a person first and didn’t do things like gossip about what sex I was for an entire semester while sitting within earshot of me. Asking is always less rude than that. One other thing that is helpful is to not make a big deal about mis-gendering someone. Saying “oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t know/slipped up” then dropping it is miles better than turning it into a huge thing and making both parties uncomfortable. It is a tough call though; all trans people (or people who are simply androgynous) are different, so what offends one person might not offend another. I think the best way to be respectful is to be educated. Read things about respecting trans people that were written by trans people, and don’t ask personal questions that could be easily answered by a quick google search.
Damn it. It deleted most of my comment. Basically: Chaz Bono is being misogynist and he is also slightly transphobic concerning people who aren’t masculine or feminine enough in his eyes. Also, I do view my transition as an entirely medical thing, though that certainly isn’t the case for all people who are transgender and/or transsexual.
If I don’t know someone’s gender, I refer to them as “they” until the person themself corrects me.
I hate it when people ask me about being transgendered. It always feels like they are ganging up on me, and thinking about my genitals and my sexual activity, which is none of their business.
“When I’m done with a dildo I can just throw it in a corner.” Lol!
I know many transgendered people. Probably more than most. I tend to levitate to them because I know they are very kind, understanding and wonderfully intelligent individuals. And damn fun to be with…..
I am also amazed when I hear the vehement hatred that comes out of the mouths of others toward transgendered people. I always ask if they happen to know or have ever met anyone TG. They always say No. How fucked up is that! Hating something you know nothing about. I think maybe that is a flaw in the human condition. Fear of the unknown.
As of 10AM Mountain standard time, on Thursday Novemeber 24th, your podcast does not play in our out of either Chrome of EI, nor can I down load the file from Calgary Alberta Canada. Temp problem?
As of 11AM Mountain standard time, Thursday Feb 24, the Podcast works.
You might be interested in the woman who’s married to the Berlin Wall: http://www.berlinermauer.se/
Hey you don’t give a credit to the into music in the podcast or in the text around the episode!
Hi GBs and GB listeners! Since the show this week included stuff about teen pregnancy, I thought I would take the opportunity to plug my new blog. It’s called OMG Im gonna be a daddy. I’m a few years out of my teens but I’ll be dealing with some interesting issues such as pregnancy process (doctors appt. and such), progress of the baby, interesting ideas I have about the baby, and how I deal with depression throughout.
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P.S. GB is in my links section, love the podcast.
As a man I find it refreshing to listen to GB.
As far as expecting logic or even empathy to play a role in religion is foolish at best, a deadly mistake at worse since religion is all about suppression and control. What I find so amazing is one of our gay friends is a Christian! I’ve asked him about the bible’s stance on gays and he simply dismisses that passage. His God somehow accepts him.
It is good to have Godless Bitches audio to turn to when such surrounded by such Religious fervor. Godless Bitches is a positive effort to promote logic and reason while helping other supporters and promoters of the age of reason to know they’re not alone in the world. Truly Godless Bitches is a netcast who’s time has come.
Linked to this episode at secular news and views
15 year post transition trans woman and lifelong atheist/sceptic here.
I think for many people the safest thing to do when it comes to pronouns is to simply ask and and to put all the embarrassment on yourself, “I’m sorry this is really embarrassing and I’m sorry if it’s rude to ask, but I’d hate to get it wrong, but which pronouns do you use?”
Chez bono has been talked about a lot, and I also think he has problems with heterosexism, sexism, and misogyny. I don’t think he’s trying to be, I just think it’s something he should work on. The reason though he needs to be held to a really high standard though is because of his high celebrity he’s seen as speaking for all trans people by many of those that are uneducated. but he doesn’t speak for us with the things he said. Doesn’t
Women in the back of the bus
This article states, “… is not subsidized by city money.”
The way I understood the situation: the religious community started a bus line for themselves and got a permit allowing the general public to also use the service. If it was a public bus financed by public money it should abide by public rules but that doesn’t seem to be the case in this situation.
The belief group chooses to bring services and benifits at no public expense and the transportation company doesn’t actively make women move to the back (in the podcast you mentioned a reporter that was uncomfortable by the PASSENGER’S comments when she sat in front). If we want the freedom to speak against religion, I think we need to accept that other people will speak about their beliefs.
Women in the Back of the Bus
“… is not subsidized by city money.”
A religious group chooses to allow other community members to use a service financed by the religious group. If they are willing to provide services at no public expense and the bus service does not actively enforce the sexist rules (the podcast talked about a reporter that was uncomfortable about the passengers’ comments - if the bus driver had required she sit in back the comments would not have happened) there is little room for regulation. If we want the right to speak against religion in public we must accept that the passengers on the bus also have the right to speak about their beliefs.
Hey, I’m new to the podcast. I love it.
I just wanted to comment on the part about women being seen as dirty. I’m an ex-Muslim, and one of the most disturbing things I encountered was my ex-husband refusing to let me do beauty treatments in our apartment because he didn’t like the idea of “women being in the house”. I told him that he’d be at work, but he said just the concept of women being in the house bothered him. It was just as you said - women are like pigs and dogs to him.
The objections to gay marriage are so utterly ridiculous. Why don’t these people just take a look at Europe? Most Western and Northern European countries have gay marriage, some since 10-15 years (most of Scandinavia, Germany etc.). So far no sight of us getting married to toddlers, multiple partners, animals and objects. Durrr..
They should also take a look at the allerged negative consequences of gay marriage. We heterosexuals are still getting devorced as often as before (hehe) but oddly enough Western and Northern Europe has a far lower homicide, rape, teen pregnancy (while it may be at an alltime low in the US that alltime low is still 6-8 times higher than in most European counties..), STD infection and drug abuse rates as well as better health care. Not to mention that a more secular, tolerant attitude leads to less bullying and teen suicides. Ex-gay camps are not allowed because lack of religious fanatism allows a more natual attitude towards homosexualty, gays were never banned from the military.
So next time some moron comes up with these kind of “arguments” and predictions, just point him towards what is happening in Europe because I suspect this kind of person does never take a look outside of their own country. Or state. Or town for that matter.
There is a woman already married to the Eiffel tower, not sure if she’s the one you where talking about…http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/03/11/woman-marries-the-object-of-her-desire-the-eiffel-tower/
I wonder if it would be polygamy if more then one person wanted to marry it… Not sure that the marriage is legal or just a ceremony. On the other hand, my shower turns my on… but i live in an apartment… if i married my shower do i get to take it with… or do i have to?
lol, love you guys! and plz share the really offensive photo… i love to offend people on facebook
There is a video response on utube to this episode, from a trans person. i actually that’s how i found out about you guys… i’m not going to link since in don’t have permission, but i’m sure you can search for it
Regarding the asshole who raped a girl and is now on the board of Bob Jones U. (Ignore U. to the rest of the world): The offender confessed his guilt and was forgiven. She confessed her guilt (1% for not making herself unattractive enough to this asshole) and got banished and had to go through a probably not very happy pregnancy. This incident highlights the horrors of theocratic laws. This case should be pursued legally. It is outrageous that being a member of any church at all in today’s USA gives you a free pass to circumvent the laws of the land. The girl’s parents should be prosecuted for complicity in this travesty of justice.
Maybe the fetish muslim men have re women being “unclean” just applies to non-virgins who have had sex with men other than themselves, so a virgin is ok but other women who may not be virgins are not. Maybe that’s why they have that thing about either murdering a rape victim or forcing her to marry her rapist. That would explain why Adia’s ex refused to allow other women in their house but managed to co-habit with Adia without freaking out.
Speaking of weird sex, what do you guys know about or think about furries? I could get into that, I think.
India already has ceremonial marriages to things like dogs and trees– maybe *that* was the slippery slope which led to gays worldwide wanting marriage equality, not the other way around. :rolleyes:
@Gina - I went to a Christian lecture/’public meeting’ opposing gay marriage here in Australia and they actually listed the countries that have brought in same-sex marriage or civil unions as if they themselves were an argument against it. No explanation, just a list like, ‘Sweden, New Zealand, Canada…’ sneered out like those were all inherently dirtybad countries anyway. It was extremely bewildering!
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